Putting on a Timing Belt, 89 Suzi Carry PU, F5A Motor

[dutchman]

Howdy! I see several of you have replaced timing belts. I am replacing one now on my 89 Carry (F5A) that broke on me at low r.p.m. I got replacement on and found timing marks on camshaft gear and on crankshaft gear. I aligned camshaft marks with crankshaft mark using a straight edge and attempted a start. No luck. I then rotated camshaft 180 degrees, remounted timing belt, and tried again. No luck. Looks like I needed a little sleep and a clearer head. Only good news is that it appears that the non interference engine non interfered.

I thought of problem overnight and here is my revised plan.

I will open timing hole cover and bring crankshaft up to the point the needle is at 10 degrees BTDC. I will then remove distributor cover to insure that the rotor is pointing close to the number one cylinder. If it is not, I will rotate crankshaft until it is and the timing needle is pointed at 10 degrees BTDC.

After accomplishing this, I will remove the valve cover and insure that the valves on Number One are both closed (should be a bit of space between the camshaft and the valve stems). Saying I am still alive and sober at this point, I will then reposition the camshaft until the timing marks align with the crankshaft timing mark using a straight edge as a gauge.

Hopefully at this pont my Suzi will fire up and I can close this job up and set points again. By the way, my only manual is one for an 82 Hatch with the F5A engine. I am calling number one cylinder the one closest to the transmission or rear one.

Now, if any of you have any suggestions, tips, tricks, or just want to bag on an old Ford guy working on a Suzi, bring 'em on. I can use all of the help I can get. If you want to swing by Kansas and :frustration:do the job for me, I pay in beer only.

Thanks guys for any insight you may be able to provide.

dutchman http://www.minitrucktalk.com/images/smilies/frustration.gif

[dmerc]

A crank turns twice for each cam revolution....if the marks are lined up correctly, you should check the distributor to be sure it's at the firing point. Are you sure the marks are set with a straight edge? Most cams I've seen line up with the edge of the head, where the valve cover seals.

[dutchman]

Hey!! Thanks for your input. Actually what I did was to set camshaft with the two timing marks (one on each side of the gear) aligned to the center of the crankshaft mounting bolt. I then turned the crankshaft until the timing mark was directly in line with the line made between the camshaft and the center of the mounting bolt, facing the cam shaft gear. Maybe right or maybe wrong but that's the way I put the thing together. I'll learn more from folks like you by tomorrow morning. Thanks again. dutchman

[dmerc]

Hey!! Thanks for your input. Actually what I did was to set camshaft with the two timing marks (one on each side of the gear) aligned to the center of the crankshaft mounting bolt. I then turned the crankshaft until the timing mark was directly in line with the line made between the camshaft and the center of the mounting bolt, facing the cam shaft gear. Maybe right or maybe wrong but that's the way I put the thing together. I'll learn more from folks like you by tomorrow morning. Thanks again. dutchman

Dan posted a .pdf of a 550 mitsi motor, see if this looks familiar.
http://mysite.verizon.net/merc4/cam.jpg

[dmerc]

The entire motor manual was posted, but I can't remember WHERE I saw the link....it's here somewhere, and his name is Dan.........

Okay, found it: the post: http://www.minitrucktalk.com/showthread.php?t=3108 has links for general .pdf and later post is for the engine.

May or may not have ANYTHING in common with your motor, but many thanks to Dan for taking the time to scan all these pages!! Just kind of a "reference" tool!!

[SaskCarry]

I broke the timing belt n my '92 Carry. I've got it all set up on the marks and now I'm just waiting for the belt and tensioner to arrive from Minibrutes and I'm picking up a timing belt cover in Prince Albert today.

[SaskCarry]

I put on the new timing belt and my Carry fired right up and runs smoother than ever. The rattle is gone, (tensioner faulty maybe?)compression is good and she's purring right along. Of all the mechanics I talked to the only one that told me it is an interference engine and would have valve and head damage was the one who wanted me in for a $1200 repair