View Full Version : Just missed out on one . . .
KeiEye
01-16-2009, 04:48 PM
I've been lurking about for a month or so & have learned a great deal about minitrucks. Thanx to all the Moderators & contributors, great job!!
Anyhoo, I'm weighing pros & cons of several different trucks available. One supplier offered me a choice of four, one of which was an AUTOZAM!
Since I'm ambivalent about which make will do a better job based on my needs, the "cool" factor of having an AUTOZAM was the deciding factor! I wanted that truck!
Unfortunately a fella who expressed interest earlier has resurfaced & apparently has first dibs. Just my luck!:frustration:
Just for the record, the AUTOZAM I refer to is registered in Prince Edward Island, Canada.
The quest continues . . .
Aww, I'm sorry to hear ya didn't get your truck. Hopefully you'll find what you are looking for soon though.
Windmill
01-16-2009, 07:04 PM
Hang in there. Send us a picture when you get one.
fremontminitrucks
01-17-2009, 05:03 AM
Don't know where your located but if you let me know exactly what you're after I can probably find it. We can still import from Japan for another year while we get some trucks certified, so if you tell me exactly what you're after I can specially order from Japan and add it to one of our containers.
KeiEye
01-17-2009, 07:47 AM
I'm located in New Brunswick on Canada's east coast which is just about as far away from Japan as U can go without getting wet again.
Distance & time = $$$
I've researched a lot & since I'm only buying one truck, I can't afford to look any farther afield than Ontario, Canada since transportation costs are prohibitive.
In the past, I've bought vehicles from Texas & Florida because I could buy them cheaper there than here including the cost of transport, but US prices on these trucks aren't any better than prices here.
So it looks like I'll just be patient & keep looking.
Having said that, I'm open to ridiculously low prices from US dealers!!!
Meesho
01-26-2009, 02:35 PM
Don't forget that when you buy a Mini Truck from USA you will have to pay 6.2% Duty (on top of the GST/PST) + customs brokerage when you bring it back to Canada.
FYI: I just shipped a Carry from Winnipeg to Halifax. It was under USD $1000 including door pickup.
I am located in NL and wanting a mini but cost are prohibitive...well high...anyway why did u buy in Winnipeg vs the two dealers in Halifax and one in NB? Was it cost? Mind telling me how much u saved? Thanks....
KeiEye
02-03-2009, 11:04 AM
I ended up not buying from Winnepeg - again, the cost of transport was prohibitive. I didn't know about any "dealers" in NB or NS untill about a week ago. Apparently there's a guy in Lunenburg - Blockhouse Motors or something. I heard he has 17 trucks on his lot.
Anyhoo, I managed to find one locally which I could look at, kick the tires & drive. U can't do that over the phone or the internet & from what I've read & learned, there's LOTS of folks looking to make quick bucks on these toys.
Perhaps I would have been OK buying sight unseen, but when U buy over the phone from a curbsider, there are no guarantees or protection for the buyer.
kahonwes
02-06-2009, 01:31 PM
Have you tried this guy in Quebec he has alot of them forsale..
http://www.mini4x4.ca
I'm sure he might have something he has about 20 I think
Meesho
02-19-2009, 06:13 AM
I am located in NL and wanting a mini but cost are prohibitive...well high...anyway why did u buy in Winnipeg vs the two dealers in Halifax and one in NB? Was it cost? Mind telling me how much u saved? Thanks....
We sold-out the last 6 mini trucks we imported very fast. Buyers from all over Canada are telling me even with shipping costs ($350 to $1250) included, the prices were CAD $2000 to $3500 cheaper for similar condition/milage trucks in their local area. The trucks all had 20 to 54kms and are completely rust-free.
We post a minimum of 24 high resolution 800x600 pixel photos and do a detailed condition report noting any cosmetic defects. The trucks are mechanically inspected and repaired as needed. They are given a fresh oil, lube and filter change.... Then it's off to the new customer by Rail or Open car carrier!
Kei King
03-16-2009, 01:11 PM
For more information about the trucks meesho mentioned above, you can visit www.keiking.com
We have clean, low milage trucks starting at USD $3495! FOB Vancouver. Shipping ranges between $50 and $1250.
It can be very exciting buying a mini truck but don't let anyone talk you into paying thousands more than you have to!
minitruck.ca
04-26-2009, 09:09 PM
Do you tell your customers that the trucks come direct from Japan and they will need to do work to them before they can be registered for road use in Canada? Do you also tell them that you are not a BC registered Vehicle Dealer and not otherized to sell Minitrucks in BC?
Kei King
04-28-2009, 01:50 AM
Most of our trucks have between 20,000 to 40,000kms. They are all hand picked in Japan and carefully inspected by our team once they arrive in Canada. This means that little or no mechanical work is needed.
Kei King selects only the best, low milage, rust free trucks.
The last 5 I sold, required less than $100 in parts each to pass the provincial inspections.
We also sell: dot lights, dot tires & reflectors if customers need those to pass in their province (varies).
We are a fully registered business in Manitoba. Sorry, we do not provide retail sales in BC.
Dealers welcome in BC or anywhere in Canada. Top commission is paid.
Mr. T.
07-26-2009, 09:12 AM
Meesho:
Why in heck are you talking USD. We don't give a heck about USD here in Canada, nor do we care about Yens, Kopeks, or Rubles. The only time I care about those currencies is if I visit those countries. Then I respect their currencies and customs, and do my darndest to respect their citizens. I don't go to Italy and spend US or CDN Dollars, or expect CDN dollars in change, nor do I expect service in English.
Are you an American doing business in Canada, and therefore find it hard to think that Canadian dollars are worth something. Every time you quote shipping in US $, on has to check the current exchange rate to figure out what the heck your talking about.
Canadian Trucking Companies, CN and CP don't quote shipping cost in in US dollars, so why do you.
MR. T.
In Meesho's defense, his last post did quote "CAD" (canadian dollars) on how much he saved seeing that is the question he was addressing. Also not that the post is nearly 5 months old, so I doubt you'll get a reply.
KeiEye
07-26-2009, 10:50 PM
I'm with you Mr. T. If you're Canadian selling to Canadians, then the currency is Canadian $$ Pretty simple from where I come from!
There's a lot of shady people in the used car business, that's why they're on the same level of trust as politicians.
When I was first looking for a truck, I looked at Meesho's offerings & they looked good, but when you're buying sight unseen, without a test drive, the seller better make you feel very good about things. Meesho didn't. No sale.
Kei King? Refused to sell me parts for the truck I did end up purchasing because I didn't buy my truck from them. Not only that, but he was rude about it. Must be nice to have that strong of a customer base!
Having said that about these guys, there's a whole lot of GREAT people here, very friendly, very helpful. Just like in regular car sales, there's danger lurking in the sales department, buyer beware - always!!
B-Edwards
11-15-2009, 08:03 AM
Meesho:
Why in heck are you talking USD. We don't give a heck about USD here in Canada, nor do we care about Yens, Kopeks, or Rubles. The only time I care about those currencies is if I visit those countries. Then I respect their currencies and customs, and do my darndest to respect their citizens. I don't go to Italy and spend US or CDN Dollars, or expect CDN dollars in change, nor do I expect service in English.
Are you an American doing business in Canada, and therefore find it hard to think that Canadian dollars are worth something. Every time you quote shipping in US $, on has to check the current exchange rate to figure out what the heck your talking about.
Canadian Trucking Companies, CN and CP don't quote shipping cost in in US dollars, so why do you.
MR. T.
I Pity da Fool that says USD! :D
Kei King
11-24-2009, 06:45 AM
Kei King? Refused to sell me parts for the truck I did end up purchasing because I didn't buy my truck from them. Not only that, but he was rude about it. Must be nice to have that strong of a customer base!
I wish I caught this cheap-shot sooner. Sounds like you are just sour because the "dealer" you ended up buying from has NO parts support but this doesn't give you the right to defame my company.
Anyways, we have a standard reply we send for all parts inquiries. Nothing unique about it considering most importers have a similar policy:
We will happily supply replacement and upgrade parts to our previous customers only. Parts are sold with little or no mark-up as an added benefit of doing business with Kei King. Common replacement parts are in usually in-stock and hard-to-find parts can be shipped directly from Japan by Fedex or slowboat depending on the urgency. Most upgrade parts are dropped shipped directly from the USA manufacture and if you prefer we can supply their contact information so you can order directly from them.
Kei King
11-24-2009, 06:54 AM
I'm with you Mr. T. If you're Canadian selling to Canadians, then the currency is Canadian $$ Pretty simple from where I come from!
There's a lot of shady people in the used car business, that's why they're on the same level of trust as politicians.
When I was first looking for a truck, I looked at Meesho's offerings & they looked good, but when you're buying sight unseen, without a test drive, the seller better make you feel very good about things. Meesho didn't. No sale.
Kei King? Refused to sell me parts for the truck I did end up purchasing because I didn't buy my truck from them. Not only that, but he was rude about it. Must be nice to have that strong of a customer base!
Having said that about these guys, there's a whole lot of GREAT people here, very friendly, very helpful. Just like in regular car sales, there's danger lurking in the sales department, buyer beware - always!!
PS: You have obviously never run a business or met a payroll in your life.
Currency fluctuation is accounted for in all contracts with multi-national companies (such as CN or CF) or one that trade across the border (import/ export companies).
zardoz
11-24-2009, 02:23 PM
"We will happily supply replacement and upgrade parts to our previous customers only. Parts are sold with little or no mark-up as an added benefit of doing business with Kei King. Common replacement parts are in usually in-stock and hard-to-find parts can be shipped directly from Japan by Fedex or slowboat depending on the urgency. Most upgrade parts are dropped shipped directly from the USA manufacture and if you prefer we can supply their contact information so you can order directly from them."
Personally I don't think this a very reasonable policy... what happens if/when the sales of your own vehicles wains?
To me it sounds like you are shooting yourself in the foot!
To refuse to sell repair parts to anyone other than folks that bought their truck from you is not financially responsible IMHO.
Hey I know.... I'll put up a poll and see who can buy parts from OTHER than who they bought their truck from.... :)
z
Kei King
11-24-2009, 03:40 PM
"We will happily supply replacement and upgrade parts to our previous customers only. Parts are sold with little or no mark-up as an added benefit of doing business with Kei King. Common replacement parts are in usually in-stock and hard-to-find parts can be shipped directly from Japan by Fedex or slowboat depending on the urgency. Most upgrade parts are dropped shipped directly from the USA manufacture and if you prefer we can supply their contact information so you can order directly from them."
Personally I don't think this a very reasonable policy... what happens if/when the sales of your own vehicles wains?
To me it sounds like you are shooting yourself in the foot!
To refuse to sell repair parts to anyone other than folks that bought their truck from you is not financially responsible IMHO.
Hey I know.... I'll put up a poll and see who can buy parts from OTHER than who they bought their truck from.... :)
z
If the dealer you bought your truck from was so great, then why are you even bother asking me for parts???
Sounds like you have a strong sense of entitlement. A poll??? When will you guys understand.... The government... or this case: private business, doesn't owe you anything!
Kei King
11-24-2009, 03:42 PM
"We will happily supply replacement and upgrade parts to our previous customers only. Parts are sold with little or no mark-up as an added benefit of doing business with Kei King. Common replacement parts are in usually in-stock and hard-to-find parts can be shipped directly from Japan by Fedex or slowboat depending on the urgency. Most upgrade parts are dropped shipped directly from the USA manufacture and if you prefer we can supply their contact information so you can order directly from them."
Personally I don't think this a very reasonable policy... what happens if/when the sales of your own vehicles wains?
To me it sounds like you are shooting yourself in the foot!
To refuse to sell repair parts to anyone other than folks that bought their truck from you is not financially responsible IMHO.
Hey I know.... I'll put up a poll and see who can buy parts from OTHER than who they bought their truck from.... :)
z
There is only 2 dealers in Canada that I know of that have a reasonable amount of PARTS IN STOCK + SELL TO ANYONE. They can be easily found by checking the forum sponsor list.
KeiEye
11-24-2009, 06:03 PM
Yer puttin' a big HUGE smile on my face KEI KING!
Your flaming of me speaks volumes about who U are.
U've said enuff, so I'll do U a favour & end this before U do any further damage to your reputation - such as it may be.
Your snotty, snarky words here will stand in perpetuity to anyone who researches KEI KING on the internet.
Todays consumers are a smarter bunch than many realize, including U apparently KEI KING. That's why a site like this is so popular.
This website, minitrucktalk.com is about the enjoyment & maintenance of my minitruck, NOT about trading barbs with you Jason, or meesha, or KEI KING, whatever you call yourself.
You may have wondered why I used the name KEI KING in this post so many times. Let me know if U ever figure it out smart mouth!
I'll not bother to reply to whatever last word flame that U wish to unleash so go ahead, give us "out east" your best shot there big boy!
Kei King
11-24-2009, 06:13 PM
Typical rhetoric... attack the person (me) and not back-up your idea (that I someone owe it to you to sell you parts).
Still waiting for reasoning?? Why would I HAVE to sell you parts if you never bought the truck from me??
What gives you that sense of entitlement??
zardoz
11-25-2009, 06:05 AM
my earlier suspicions. I have NEVER asked to buy parts from you, nor will I. There are quite a number of dealers that are glad to do business with anyone that wants to spend their hard earned scheckles.
Who said my dealer isn't great? Not me thats for sure... even though I bought my truck from a private sale, My dealer is quite happy to sell me whatever I need/want. So why oh why would I wish to deal with "your ilk"?
Flashing out phrases like "strong sense of entitlement" does not impress me, nor likely anyone else :rolleyes:
Run the mouth,shoot the foot... works every time!
z
If the dealer you bought your truck from was so great, then why are you even bother asking me for parts???
Sounds like you have a strong sense of entitlement. A poll??? When will you guys understand.... The government... or this case: private business, doesn't owe you anything!
Kei King
11-25-2009, 09:28 AM
These 2X guys above still haven't addressed why I HAVE to sell them parts? Why are you ENTITLED to parts sales?
They are good at mixing words and personal attacks but can't back up their view-points.
If you throw out ideas and don't back them up, then you lose credibility. It's called a "discussion forum" for a reason.
Meesho
11-25-2009, 09:31 AM
There are quite a number of dealers that are glad to do business with anyone that wants to spend their hard earned scheckles.
z
Hard earned??? Your profile says you grow weed and haven't worked in 10 years. Your comments have as much value as your contribution to society??
zardoz
11-25-2009, 09:56 AM
That you HAVE to sell parts to anyone, I merely suggested that selling parts to only those you have sold trucks to is not what most people would call good business.
That is my only point in this discussion.
z
These 2X guys above still haven't addressed why I HAVE to sell them parts? Why are you ENTITLED to parts sales?
They are good at mixing words and personal attacks but can't back up their view-points.
If you throw out ideas and don't back them up, then you lose credibility. It's called a "discussion forum" for a reason.
zardoz
11-25-2009, 10:09 AM
so what if I grow marijuana... I am federally approved to grow it. I am a federally licensed "Medical Marijuana patient, registered with Health Canada". I use marijuana to control pain and muscle spasms.
How did I come to have a need for this medication?
Why have I been un-employed for the last 10 years?
I was injured in the service of my country (military service), honorably discharged on a medical pension. I am partially disabled as a result of this injury.
I think I have established my "contribution to society" can you say the same??? LOL
z
ps: my duplicolor bed lining is holding up marvelously.... coated the complete interior of my truck bed for a measly 45 bucks... so much for advice LOL
Hard earned??? Your profile says you grow weed and haven't worked in 10 years. Your comments have as much value as your contribution to society??
Meesho
11-25-2009, 10:24 AM
so what if I grow marijuana... I am federally approved to grow it. I am a federally licensed "Medical Marijuana patient, registered with Health Canada". I use marijuana to control pain and muscle spasms.
How did I come to have a need for this medication?
Why have I been un-employed for the last 10 years?
I was injured in the service of my country (military service), honorably discharged on a medical pension. I am partially disabled as a result of this injury.
I think I have established my "contribution to society" can you say the same??? LOL
z
ps: my duplicolor bed lining is holding up marvelously.... coated the complete interior of my truck bed for a measly 45 bucks... so much for advice LOL
10 years of smoking weed everyday??? Your mind is warped. Now all your view-points make sense!
Marijuana impinges on the central nervous system by attaching to brain's neurons and interfering with normal communication between the neurons. These nerves respond by altering their initial behavior. For example, if a nerve is suppose to assist one in retrieving short-term memory, cannabinoids receptors make them do the opposite. So if one has to remember what he did five minutes ago, after smoking a high dose of marijuana, he has trouble. Marijuana plant contains 400 chemicals and 60 of them are cannabinoids, which are psychoactive compounds that are produced inside the body after cannabis is metabolized or is extorted from the cannabis plant. Cannabinoids is an active ingredient of marijuana. The most psychoactive cannabinoids chemical in marijuana that has the biggest impact on the brain is tetrahydrocannibol, or THC. THC is the main active ingredient in marijuana because it affects the brain by binding to and activating specific receptors, known as cannabinoid receptors. "These receptors control memory, thought, concentration, time and depth, and coordinated movement. THC also affects the production, release or re-uptake (a regulating mechanism) of various neurotransmitters."(2) Neurotransmitters are chemical messenger molecules that carry signals between neurons. Some of these affects are personality disturbances, depression and chronic anxiety. Psychiatrists who treat schizophrenic patient advice them to not use this drug because marijuana can trigger severe mental disturbances and cause a relapse
Kei King
12-13-2009, 03:39 PM
We sell parts to OUR customers only.
If you didn't buy from us, I can't sell to you. I have to make sure there is enough parts in stock so I can provide my customers with exceptional after sales service.
DannyM
12-13-2009, 05:49 PM
Kei King, here in the good ole USA we have the Japanese tractors called Kubota. There are Kubota dealers all over, and most all of them will not sell parts for the " grey market " kubotas either Kubota tells them not to). But there are some dealers who will, by having their parts department as a separate shop, these dealers are literally swamped with business. Our local Kubota dealer would not sell me a clutch and pressure plate for my tractor (grey market), and gave me a real hard time about it. Because of that when I did find a dealer who would, just across the state line in Alabama, when I needed a new mower for my lawn company, I went to Ala and bought it. Got good service, a great price, and by word of mouth ( that traveled extremely fast) our local dealer has lost tons of business and money to the Alabama store. So, if your satisfied with your limited business, fine. But, unless your independently wealthy, you might want to reconsider. I refuse to do my business like you do, or business with people like you. I go out of my way to support the companys that support me ( a customer). Danny
Kei King
12-13-2009, 06:44 PM
In the long run, the Kubota brand name has been severely damaged by this practice. Short term gain but long term pain. A dealership has a parts department to support it's customers, not to help out a chinese competitor undercut them by 50%. They are basically digging their own grave... well the brand isn't, the rouge dealers are that go against the company policy.
Ketzer
12-14-2009, 08:09 AM
Jeezus, you "nucks are a tough bunch. :pop:
So that I'm clear, did this King guy sell anybody some bad stuff? Rip anybody off on their truck? You guys show a ton of animosity for a place that you didn't even do business with?
Eye, I get what you think you're doing. But when somebody Googles and reads this, he pretty much stayed professional and civil and you come off looking kinda like uumm, well... you really helped his rep more than hurt.
I guess I must be missing something being a hick "neck from the states.:confused:
The one thing I did learn, Z is bogarting all the good weed! Talk about somebody bein' a douche!:sly:
Jeff-
cheepBeer
12-14-2009, 10:25 AM
In the long run, the Kubota brand name has been severely damaged by this practice. Short term gain but long term pain. A dealership has a parts department to support it's customers, not to help out a chinese competitor undercut them by 50%. They are basically digging their own grave... well the brand isn't, the rouge dealers are that go against the company policy.
Mmmmm, when I read this it reminds me of the Betamax days when they wouldn’t license out cos Sony wanted all the market, Ahh …Betamax those short, short days and lets not for get Mac v PC in the early day, what a product but they wouldn’t license out as Mac wanted all the market….look how many people have PC’s today and those Die hard few called Mackys. Anyway getting off track but don’t 4get Pride is a dangerous thing and being Stubborn is a kin to committing Suicide
:eek:
I say “Adapt or Die”
Acerguy
12-14-2009, 10:45 AM
Is this thread done now? :sly:
miniMOG
12-14-2009, 07:34 PM
Acer- dont lock the thread just yet--- it has been the most interesting one I have read all month!:pop:
Acerguy
12-14-2009, 09:05 PM
Lol. Mmmmmmokay.
Stuff99
12-15-2009, 11:11 AM
i lol'ed about this thread. if some guy came to me looking for a part i had, i dont know why i wouldnt sell it to him, i dont care what he does with it! could be a redneck fireplace trophy for all i care :P
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