2001 Wheel Problem

[Tri_State_Mini_Trucks]

Does anyone have a source for 4X100 wheels for a 2001 Jumbo?

I have gotten in all kinds of spacers and crap and I am having a hell of a time.

Golf Cart wheels maybe?

Anyone?

The truck is in Primo shape so I don't want to do a ton of cutting on the fenders to just shove something in the wheel well.

Help Please!!

[greg0187]

These guys are saying you can use 4X101.8 with no problems, but I don't know. Call or e-mail these guys www.tirewiz.com and ask them what their experience is.

Here is the quote from their ebay auction.

"ATTENTION 4/100mm buyers, the wheel I will be sending you will have a 4/4 bolt pattern in it, right now it is the only option that I know of. 4/4 is actually 4/101.6mm this is close and has been working with no reported problems."

[dwink]

Go to http://www.superminitrucks.com/index.php they have aluminum wheels that fit 4/100. They are ITP series 7 wheels ordered specifically for mini trucks with the 4/100 pattern. You can get them in black or silver. I have a set and they work great. I searched the world over for wheels and found these to be the best for a 4/100 pattern.

[NorthTexasMiniTrucks]

I believe Supergrip will have a 4/100 wheel coming out in the near future. Check with Cory at Xroads.....

[foots]

4x100 is an old ATV bolt pattern. Shouldn't be hard to find. That's what my 86 takes.

[gatewayminitrucks]

The company I get my wheels from offers 3 sets of wheels that are said to work but I haven't tried them yet but if anyone is interested I will offer a set to you at my cost if you report back and let us know how they work.. Anyone want to be a gunnie pig?

[BLES]

Can someone clarify this wheel thing for me? 4/100 wheels are common on a lot of cars as far as I can tell from my research. Do OEM or aftermarket car wheels not work?
Confused,
BLES

[Acerguy]

Colin has regular 4x100 alloy auto rims on his Sambar running 175/65/14 snow tires. And I seem to recall someone else on the forum is running 14" or 15" Scion wheels.

http://www.minitrucktalk.com/showthread.php?p=3767#post3767 about half way down the page.

And yes, 4x100 is very common OEM auto size....Toyota, VW, etc...

[Tri_State_Mini_Trucks]

The company I get my wheels from offers 3 sets of wheels that are said to work but I haven't tried them yet but if anyone is interested I will offer a set to you at my cost if you report back and let us know how they work.. Anyone want to be a gunnie pig?

I would be willing I need to get this truck done. Send me an email.

Are they 5+2 offset?

[h2hminitrucks]

I can get you your 4x100's. Available in black alum., aluminum or chrome. Send me an E-mail on your preference and I can get you all the details on wednesday. Rick.

[xroadsimport]

We have them in stock right now. http://www.xroadsimport.com/xri/index.php?page=wheels-tires
We will have some more options available soon.

Cory

[greg0187]

The company I get my wheels from offers 3 sets of wheels that are said to work but I haven't tried them yet but if anyone is interested I will offer a set to you at my cost if you report back and let us know how they work.. Anyone want to be a gunnie pig?

Are any in 14X7 sizes? If not I would like to see these others your distributor has.

[greg0187]

Look at THIS (http://www.itptires.com/2007wheelchart.xls) at the ITP Website. According to them they do not even make a 4x100 wheel. Are you (Dealers) selling 4/4 bolt pattern as a 4x100?

[JRinTX]

Greg,

In many cases I think you are correct. I tried to locate 12x7 wheels for a newer Suzuki with a 4x100mm bolt circle. There are no ATV wheels or golf cart wheels that have a 100mm bolt circle, they are actually a 4" bolt pattern. There are a few special made wheels that claim to have a 100mm bolt pattern, but I was told by a tech at ITP that they do not make a 4 x 100mm wheel.

I have had several people tell me that the 4" bolt pattern will work fine, but I can not believe that it is a good fit. 4" is 101.6mm which is 1.6mm larger than the 100mm bolt circle. That is 1/16" difference in the diameters. Theoretically the wheel could be eccentric to the hub by 1/32". That is alot of runout!!

I may be wrong, but this what I found when I searched for 12x7" wheels with a 4x100mm bolt pattern.

By the way, there are several automotive wheels with a 4x100mm bolt patten. They are 13" in diameter and larger. Check out Ulmer Farm Service's website.

[greg0187]

I also noticed that they only make a 2-5 offset. Don't we need 5-2 offset or a positive offset.

[Acerguy]

I have had several people tell me that the 4" bolt pattern will work fine, but I can not believe that it is a good fit. 4" is 101.6mm which is 1.6mm larger than the 100mm bolt circle. That is 1/16" difference in the diameters. Theoretically the wheel could be eccentric to the hub by 1/32". That is alot of runout!!

I wonder, if the ATV rim had a lot larger center hole then a hubcentric adapter could be made and the rim could possibly work. I've had alloy aftermarket rims that used simple, plastic rings to be able to fit a specific brand of car (for instance, my Toyota has a smaller hub than my VW even though both are 4x100). This way, the rim is not depending on the lug bolts to be centered on the wheel but rather the rim centers up on the axle hub. Depending on the size of the lug bolts, then you might be able to bolt it right up. Probably want to use plain, flat bolts rather than conic or spherical bolts though. Just a thought.

[greg0187]

Thats an idea. I found a set of 14" honda and mazda alloys that will work but they are only 5.5" wide. I was hoping to run a more aggressive tire than a winter radial.

Greg

[dwink]

I'm telling you guys, go to suprminitrucks website they have a 4/100 wheel with the correct offset. I have no affiliation to these folks, but I own a set of the wheels and they work great! They told me they have the wheels made by ITP specifically for minis. They are series seven in black or silver. The wheels are in ITP boxes but do not ITP stamped anywhere on them, but the key is that they work, mine are on a 99 Mitsu.

[h2hminitrucks]

We have 4x100 bolt pattern rims in stock. ITP use to make the wheels, but now they are available exclusively by us and our dealer network. they have the 5+2 offset needed for the mini trucks. They come black or polished. You can reach me at 516-578-2344 or e-mail me at: info@h2hminitrucks.com. I hope this helps all of you guys out there. This "sporttrack 7 spoke wheel" is the only wheel that I know of that is truly a 4x100 bolt pattern with a 5x2 offset! I do not know how to add pics to this thread, but if you are interested I do have pics available. Thanks, Rick.

[Acerguy]

Rick, the easiest way to add pics that are on your own computer is to click on the "go Advanced" button when writing a reply and scroll down to "Additional Options". You'll see a button that says "Manage Attachments". Click that and you can upload files (within some size limits) directly from your computer. It will show a thumbnail in your post that folks can click on to see the full size image. Alternatively, if it's a picture that's already out on the web, simply click the icon above the message box that looks like a sun over mountain and paste the URL address in the popup box. Hope this helps! :)

[greg0187]

Only if it truly is 4x100 will I buy a set.

[greg0187]

OK. So I just went ahead and ordered the Sport Track 7 spoke, Maxxis Big Horns and a 3" lift from x-roads. x-roads said they are 4x100. We will see.
-Greg

[GR.mike]

www.grimports.com I know that we can get you set up!

[greg0187]

I recieved my Sport-Track 7 spoke from xroadsimport (http://www.xroadsimport.com/xri/index.php?page=wheels-tires). They are not 4x100 as stated on their web site. They are 4/4. I even asked them on the phone to make sure before I ordered them and they told me 4x100. There is an obvious difference. Now I can't get my money back. :mad: You might want to think twice about who you are buying from. I should have probably bought from a site sponser. :frustration:

[larryn2o]

OK stop laughing
looks like it would make up for a slight mis match.
offers 1 to 1.5 mm offset.

http://www.priracing.com/product.php/1159/180/nut---variable-pcd-taper-nut-m12x1-5


looks like a USA link

http://www.serpentautosport.com/wheel_accessories_lugs.htm

[greg0187]

That only helps if the wheel is hub centric. In this case it is not. In my opinion this may make the problem worse.

Greg

[Acerguy]

How much larger is the center bore than the hub?

[Colin]

Larry - holy crap, I have never seen such a dirty solution. :D

[larryn2o]

it's like i used to say about mud racing " it's like sex , it ain't dirty unless you are doing it right !"

proof

http://s141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/larryn2o/?action=view&current=get_video-1.flv





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxELCkHRYZk

[xroadsimport]

Ok we have the problem solved. We have two types of wheel on order that are an actual 4/100mm hole pattern. They will both be here in the first part of February. We will test them and ship them out!

[h2hminitrucks]

As I stated in a previous post, we have 4x100 wheels! I presently have them on 3 trucks. All you would have to do is take them out of the box and put them on your truck!

[greg0187]

Ok we have the problem solved. We have two types of wheel on order that are an actual 4/100mm hole pattern. They will both be here in the first part of February. We will test them and ship them out!

You know what? This is ridiculous? I have had several people PM me stating that I'm on your side and you should just let it go because my reputation on this site will be ruined if I keep on going around telling everyone that xroads ripped me off. Then MAGICALLY the "all powerful" X-Roads admits there is a problem and everything is OK. Give me a break! I guess I'm putting my reputation and my $$ on the line to protect the rest of you and all I get is some behind the scenes "We agree but aren't willing to do anything about it" People.... TAKE A STAND AND FIGHT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT!! To give Corys team some credit. I didn't just go out and pick the first person to hit me up for a sale. I did extensive research and chose x-roads because I heard they had the best prices and the best service and stood behind their products and they were willing to do whatever it takes to do to make you happy. The website stated a GUARANTEE (http://www.english-test.net/toeic/vocabulary/words/316/toeic-definitions.php#guarantee). This meant to me that I was protected no matter what went wrong. That people.... is what makes a company better than any other company! Sadly though, I have to say that this wasn't my experience. What good does a GUARANTEE (http://www.english-test.net/toeic/vocabulary/words/316/toeic-definitions.php#guarantee) do if there is no one to stand behind it. I am not trying to get rich off the fact that Cross Roads had a Guarantee (http://www.english-test.net/toeic/vocabulary/words/316/toeic-definitions.php#guarantee). Believe me when I say I would have been the first person to Glorify him and his team for providing outstanding customer service if I had received it especially after what had happened. All I did was politely ask "What are you willing to do to make this right?". I made no demands, nor did I ask for my money back. All I wanted was some answer that didn't cost me more $$$ (After all that's what a guarantee (http://www.english-test.net/toeic/vocabulary/words/316/toeic-definitions.php#guarantee) is) and all I recieved was a "Prove it doesn't work" and "What exactly is your problem?" and "I do not apoligize" Cory, I still have the email conversation. It doesn't look too good for you. For the sake of my reputation I will say it. "I'm sorry Cory I did not want it to come to this" P.S. I'm still willing to glorify you Cory. Kiss Kiss

God Bless,

Greg

[xroadsimport]

I may have miss-typed. There is no problem with the 4/4” wheels on a 4/100 wheels. We have put them on many trucks and I put them on my own personal trucks. I can have nearly anything I want on my personal trucks and I use these very wheels. What I meant by problem is that those that would like an actual 4/100 will be able to have that if they like. But I have to state again that there is no problem with the 4/4” wheels on the mini trucks.
I would also like anyone that believes they have been scammed or knows anyone that believes they have been scammed to contact myself. If at all possible I will make the situation right. I don’t want anyone to think they where scammed by Crossroads, and I would never scam anyone.

I have proposed what I believe is a more than reasonable solution to Greg in his private email.

[larryn2o]

adapter inserts . looks like it will work on a mag type wheel.

http://hometown.aol.com/realsf/howtopage3.html

http://www.prestigewheel.com/Imagewi510.asp#Cone%20Seat%20Inserts

[TRAX and HORNS]

Today I was at a Yamaha Dealership and looking at the Parts Unlimited ATV catalog and saw that the 4/100 fit the Yamaha 4 wheelers and Rino. They had several rims in the bone yard that were replaced with mags. Check your local Yamaha Dealership they might have what you want.
" nothing ventured nothing gained"