Click to view all our sponsors
Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Towing Subaru Sambar

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    1
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Towing Subaru Sambar

    Can a Subaru Sambar 4x4 be towed long distances without causing transmission problems? I'm talking standard shift
    Last edited by greg0187; 11-10-2008 at 09:19 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Airdrie/Torrington,Alberta
    Posts
    410
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Are we talking on a dolly?tow truck
    They really hate it,my SC I had preferred to be on the road racing around
    1992 KS4 for sale-out of province completed-will deliver

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    60
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    i think you will kill the center diff.
    we had problems like that when our customers with 4wd vehicles get towed in on standard tow trucks. you need them on a flat bed or trailer. either all 4 are rolling or all 4 are not.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,772
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    OK. But what about all those rav 4s and samurais, etc you see pulled behind motorhomes. Not disagreeing with anyone, but I wonder how it's done.

    P.S. the reason I wonder about this is that I've had the same question. My daily driver, a Subaru Legacy wagon with a 5 speed, is probably "big" enough to flat tow a kei truck but I know I don't want to pull a truck AND a car trailer with it. That said, I know several folks with big enough trucks to borrow. But still....just wondering.
    Keith
    John Deere 4100
    2001 Hijet

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    178
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Keith,

    Alot of cars out there have a 2000-2500lb mfr towing capacity. While a 2000lb capacity is probably going to be max'ed with any utility trailer, you should look into a 5'x10' trailer and see what the weight is. One of my trailers is a 5' x 14' and weighs about 825lbs. If you use a weight of 1600lbs on your mini (which is a high estimate), you're at 2425lbs. I like the slim width because the trailer does not extend wider than my 1/2 ton pick-up. With 23" Bear Claws, there is about 1-1/2" of clearance on each side to the side rails.

    You could squeeze a mini on a 8' trailer if the rails were low enough and you had safe tie-down locations but it would be close. I would opt for a little longer.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,772
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Thanks, Badgerland. I know I've pulled a good half cord of red oad (2000+ lbs) on my "heavy duty" 4x8 trailer (2000lbs capacity, probably about 500lbs) and it pulls and stops pretty good.

    But I'm curious about Earl's original question. Do folks that tow their Samurai behind their motorhome disconnect the axles?
    Keith
    John Deere 4100
    2001 Hijet

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    Nestor Falls, ON, Canada
    Posts
    821
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    I know some vehicles people DO disconnect drive shafts.

    I am under the impression that if you have a transfer case with neutral, you should be fine. (If you actually put it in neutral that is!)

    Then both drive shafts are disconnected, and of course your hubs should be disconnected as well. Then only your rear diff and driveshaft would be turning, but not the transmission or front diff.

    For that reason, we always tell people that want to tow them to buy one with a transfer case, and not a honda, Subaru or 5 speed suzuki.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    49
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Towing Subaru

    I posed this very question to the shop in Japan that reconditions my Sambars and they told me that you had to lift the front wheels on a dolly or disconnect the front driveshaft, but never tow with four wheels on the ground as it will damage the transmission.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    1,772
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    Good info, guys. Thanks.
    Keith
    John Deere 4100
    2001 Hijet

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Posts
    37
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MiniBrutes View Post
    I know some vehicles people DO disconnect drive shafts.

    I am under the impression that if you have a transfer case with neutral, you should be fine. (If you actually put it in neutral that is!)

    Then both drive shafts are disconnected, and of course your hubs should be disconnected as well. Then only your rear diff and driveshaft would be turning, but not the transmission or front diff.

    For that reason, we always tell people that want to tow them to buy one with a transfer case, and not a honda, Subaru or 5 speed suzuki.
    Yup, you need a true neutral where the transaxle is fully disengaged. I tow a truck behind a class A motorhome and searched high and low to find a vehicle that was safe to flat tow and there are very few and most need mods like removing the drive shaft, fueses and running in TRUE neutral.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    V.I. BC Canada
    Posts
    992
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    I have to put my two cents in here.

    If you go to the Subaru section you will see a line drawing of the Sambar transaxle.
    If you leave the front wheels on the ground and dolly the rear then nothing turns except for the front drive shaft.

    See for yourself.

    The disconnect is right in the snout of the transaxle with a dog clutch, it completely disengages the front drive shaft from the transaxle
    so the reverse must also apply when towing

    IMO you would be worse off on a Sambar leaving the rears on the ground because you turn
    all the gears in the transaxle that way

    If you still don't believe then jack up the truck [all four wheels off ground] leave the tranny in 1st gear
    park brake on to if you want.
    Must be in 2wd, then crawl under and turn the front drive shaft. Are you able to turn it? Yes
    Are all the gears in the tranny turning? No
    Last edited by Timetripper; 11-12-2008 at 09:11 AM. Reason: Added more Info
    '91 Subaru Sambar SC KS4 c/w Diff Lock
    Dyno'd at 69 HP@ Rear Wheels 61.5 ft/lbs torque

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    178
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    Reviving this old thread because I've seriously been looking into towing a mini around (mainly for marketing purposes).

    Here's a great link to towing a Samurai as a "Dinghy":
    http://www.rv.net/forums/index.cfm/f...d/22476747.cfm

    Note the whole "2nd gear" discussion. Seriously though, if you're towing a 4wd with a Hi-Lo transfer case that can be set to neutral than why would this be a problem? It's hard to believe that no one has towed a mini 4-wheels down!
    Badgerland Mini Trucks & Equipment
    Wisconsin's Home of the Ultimate Utility Vehicle!
    (866) 373-0829
    dan@badgerlandminitrucks.com

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Queens, NYC and sometimes Orlando, FL
    Posts
    119
    Rep Power
    7

    Default

    If you have a 4wd (manual trans), then you can tow with 4 wheels on the ground....

    It's no different than driving it at high speeds and letting it coast in neutral....

    Unlike auto trannies, manuals don't rely on a fluid pump and won't burn up without one....


    On the other hand, towing a 4wd vehicle using a 2-wheel tow dolly will ruin the T-case and/or center diff

    Case in point....

    A few weeks back, I spotted this genius on the side of the road and just had to snap some pix







    AWD car + 2-wheel dolly = center diff BOOM!!

    Now, if he would've removed the rear driveshaft, he wouldn't be in a world of hurt right now

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Estevan, Saskatchewan, Canada, North America, Earth.
    Posts
    2,960
    Rep Power
    9

    Default

    a drawbar type tow is allot simpler, but for the hassle i would say a small trailer is the easiest. that way to if you got a hitch on your truck you could use it as a utility trailer for it when your where you want to be!
    SE Saskatchewan, Canada
    1992 Toyota Liteace - Mine
    1992 Subaru Sambar - Dad's

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    4
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    I might be thinking the wrong kind of towing...
    Attached Images Attached Images

Similar Threads

  1. Subaru E12 (Domingo & Libero) Towing ability
    By franck2cv in forum Microvans
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 06-05-2014, 10:33 AM
  2. Towing A sambar
    By wattsy in forum Subaru Sambar
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-05-2012, 10:07 AM
  3. 91 Subaru Sambar 4x4
    By shreddog in forum Mini Truck Sales
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-22-2008, 08:58 PM
  4. 92 subaru sambar
    By jcampbell in forum Mini Truck Sales
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 05-12-2008, 12:26 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •